iwire said:
I know it is our SOP to make everything as complicated as possible but can someone help me out here?
I can try...
iwire said:
Celtic in a direct and concise manner can you spell out what the issue is here?
(I thought I had....but we'll try it again)
Residential dwelling unit.
30A 240v combo W/D unit is located in a "wall cavity" with dimensions that match the combo unit.
This "wall cavity" is located in a 1st floor hallway.
Can the 120v laundry recept. [
required by 210.52(f)] be placed on the second floor?
The question is NOT "Is a 20A 120v recept. required?" , but rather - "Where can the 20A 120v recept. be located?"
210.11(c) requires the 20A outlet have no other outlet/s
[directing the user to 210.52(f)]
210.52(f) states only that the outlet is required "
for" the laundry - no mention that this outlet must be installed
in any proximity to the 30A 240V combo unit located in the hallway "wall cavity".
210.52 is pretty specific in detailing where the required outlets are to be placed: walls, small appliance, bathrooms, outdoor outlets, hallways, to name a few.
210.52(f) does not afford the user the luxury of exact requirements for the laundry.
Some have cited 210.50(c) as the appropriate reference.
What is the specific appliance here?
The W/D combo unit rated at 30A 240v?
iwire said:
I don't think it is surprise to anyone that the NEC is not a perfect document, so when all else fails what does your AHJ believe?
AHJ are also not perfect
One AHJ I encountered did not even require the 20A 120v recept.
In a nutshell, the question is:
In the scenario detailed above, can the 120v laundry recept. [
required by 210.52(f)] be placed on the second floor?