Cable Size

So I'm here's a other twist.
You have calculated load of 79a but breaker feeding the load is 100a wire has to be sized for 100a and not 80a?
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
240.4(B) permits you to use 4AWG copper on a 100 amp breaker for that load.
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Now I'm really confused and were getting ready to start work ..lol. again it's AL SER cable.

Breakers is 100a and calculated load is 80a. How would #4 be ok?

Doesn't the breaker need to protect wire so the wire ampacity should be equal or above breaker size ?
 
See post #8. SER cable cannot be installed in underground conduit. 2017 NEC 338.12(A)(2).
Alwayslearningelec said:
Now I'm really confused and were getting ready to start work ..lol. again it's AL SER cable.
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See post #8. SER cable cannot be installed in underground conduit. 2017 NEC 338.12(A)(2).
 
Is this single phase or 3 phase? I am not getting your #s to match up.

The wire above is calculated as 3 phase but I see no /1.73 in your load calculations
 
hmspe said:
See post #8. SER cable cannot be installed in underground conduit. 2017 NEC 338.12(A)(2).

See post #8. SER cable cannot be installed in underground conduit. 2017 NEC 338.12(A)(2).
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What are you talking about? The scr cable will be installed over head outside of conduit
 
If I did my math correctly using the 4/0 to a splice and then 1/o would exceed your 5% limit,
You are better off with 4/0 all the way.
and, as infinity noted, the cost of material and labor with the splice would not be worth the effort.
 
infinity said:
Yes you do two separate calculations as if there are two separate runs.
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So ..because I really need to know.lol. if the run is 490' and the calculated load is 79 amps( not taking into account the ocpd feeding the load..for now) and the splice box is located at the 290' mark of a 490' total run.

1. I can do a voltage drop calc using the calculated load to the splice box(290'). Then do my second voltage drop calc using the same calculated load from the splice box to the load?

Thanks
 
augie47 said:
If I did my math correctly using the 4/0 to a splice and then 1/o would exceed your 5% limit,
You are better off with 4/0 all the way.
and, as infinity noted, the cost of material and labor with the splice would not be worth the effort.
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We figured 3/0 for a portion of the run( to the splice box)and 1/0 for the remaining. I'm really hoping this works. We HAVE to install a splice box per the customer
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
Or the fact that Southwire is in the business of selling product.
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This is what I believe Southwire's calculator is doing behind the scenes.
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What we'd calculate with the NEC's effecitve resistance values in Chapter 9/Table 9, would be (|green| - |blue|)/|green|
What Southwire's tool is calculating, is |red|/|green|. While technically a form of voltage drop, it's not the voltage drop we most commonly care about.
 
This is what southwi1000000064.pngre vd calculator is bringing back
 

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Alwayslearningelec said:
1. I can do a voltage drop calc using the calculated load to the splice box(290'). Then do my second voltage drop calc using the same calculated load from the splice box to the load?
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Yes the total load is the same per post #16, 79.52 amps. You stated no more than 5% VD, 208*5%=10.4 volts maximum for both sections of the run combined.
 
Carultch said:
This is what I believe Southwire's calculator is doing behind the scenes.
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What we'd calculate with the NEC's effecitve resistance values in Chapter 9/Table 9, would be (|green| - |blue|)/|green|
What Southwire's tool is calculating, is |red|/|green|. While technically a form of voltage drop, it's not the voltage drop we most commonly care about.
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Note the south wire "commercial mode" calculator allows power factor to be entered and defaults to .9
 
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