That's pretty much all I use PDF's for.
Why can't NFPA add more bookmarks then they have??
Some shorter sections isn't so bad but try quickly finding your way to something in the second half of art 250 or 430
I speak mostly of 2011pdf though I'd bet 2014 isn't much different. I wouldn't waste any money on a pdf, I can navigate a hard copy faster then a pdf. Go for the e-book version would be my solution though I haven't tried it yet, it has to be nearly impossible to have worse navigation tools then the pdf does.
I have no issue with the existence of pdf's but they just are not for long documents that you plan to access frequently.
Can't add bookmarks in Acrobat X Pro either.
Now my only electronic option for 2011 is PDF files, and I just don't like it after having something that was easier to navigate. But I need to get into the 2014 anyway as it will go into effect very soon here. I think they have an E-book version for 2014 that has basically replaced the CD-ROM's and the NEC Plus of the past. But probably will have issues with it as well once 2017 comes around because they will likely end services or support even though some people will not switch to 2017 NEC right awayHave either of you used the "CD-ROM" versions they had before the 2011 when they stopped that version? It was much easier and faster to navigate then a PDF file is. It had a "tree" on the left side of the screen that you could quickly click your way through the tree reading section titles. With the PDF you can't do that, you need to know more detail of what you are looking for to put into a search and come up with the right results the first time. If I did a search for the word "white" in those CD-ROM it would not take 2 minutes it would have found all 68 of them in less then 2 seconds after hitting enter, unless maybe you had a really slow computer.
With 2011 NEC they did away with the CD ROM and offered a subscription service "NEC plus". I though it took a little bit of a step backward when talking about how easy it was to navigate through the code, but still was better then a PDF file for navigation. Then just a month or two ago they decided to stop that service - even though many people are still using 2011 nec
Ya see, this is what I am saying about your computer being slow.Have either of you used the "CD-ROM" versions they had before the 2011 when they stopped that version? It was much easier and faster to navigate then a PDF file is. It had a "tree" on the left side of the screen that you could quickly click your way through the tree reading section titles. With the PDF you can't do that, you need to know more detail of what you are looking for to put into a search and come up with the right results the first time. If I did a search for the word "white" in those CD-ROM it would not take 2 minutes it would have found all 68 of them in less then 2 seconds after hitting enter, unless maybe you had a really slow computer.
With 2011 NEC they did away with the CD ROM and offered a subscription service "NEC plus". I though it took a little bit of a step backward when talking about how easy it was to navigate through the code, but still was better then a PDF file for navigation. Then just a month or two ago they decided to stop that service - even though many people are still using 2011 nec
Is it the same computer and same PDF viewer?
Ok, you're on to something.
I understand that - to some extent. Why do away with some of the handy navigation features, as well as go to an online subscription service and discontinue it shortly after the next edition comes out when many will still be using the 2011 for some time? I have little use for my 2005 and 2008 CD programs, but at least I can still use them if I wanted to.
My comments were a response to other comments and not necessarily exact results I would have, in particular the number of hits to a search, my point was it doesn't take two minutes even on a somewhat slow computer to find 68 hits in a search.
Yes, you need to choose "Advanced Search" to see the list. If you choose "Find", then it goes thru each instance of the word 1 by 1 which is better for small documents.
If I want to go to something in 215, I click on 215 in the directory and then use the scroll wheel on my mouse to go thru the couple pages. Or, I just type "Control - F" which brings up the Find box and type (or paste) in the exact article.
