These days RV owners are involved in distributed generation and it is not just in name only.As for the applicability of above said law, look for industry classification among RV parks.Note,Try to ignore distraction from clowns.
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These days RV park owners are involved in distributed generation and not just in name only. RV parks are an industry wherever so permitted and so provisions of Federal law apply.
Not relevant wherever RV parks are already permitted as an industry.user100:1740460 said:
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- retired electrician
If the area is classified as an industrial area, the public is not permitted in that area. It can't be both a RV camp ground and and industrial power producing facility for the same physical space.These days RV owners are involved in distributed generation and it is not just in name only.As for the applicability of above said law, look for industry classification among RV parks.Note,Try to ignore distraction from clowns.
kwired
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Prairie Wind RV park, though it sounds like a name for a wind farm, doesn't appear to have anything to do with any wind farms, just an RV park out in southwest Kansas. Probably on the prairie and the wind maybe blows a lot.
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Correct but RV parks are a service industry and public are allowed to enter spaces not occupied distribution generation equipment. Remember OSHA regulations such as 1910.269 are for protecting the employees or the maimtenance personnel of the entire RV park including any distribution generation equipment.
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No, that is not correct.
1910.269 would only apply to the fenced in area of power generation or distribution.
Other OSHA standards would apply to employees in the other areas.
No fenced or protected distribution power equipment in RV parks? How silly:dunce:
More correctly, Other OSHA standards would also apply to employees in the other areas
kwired
Electron manager
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Only thing OSHA will be involved with in a RV park is maintenance employees or contractors doing work in the park.
The users are not employees (normally) the are guests, usually paying to use the park or in some cases as a courtesy for special uses or events.
The users are not employees (normally) the are guests, usually paying to use the park or in some cases as a courtesy for special uses or events.
Accessibility of equipment to qualified personnel only is the condition for the applicability of the Federal law in the distibution set up of RV sites.
Now back to 110.3(a).
While use of equipment without GFCI in RV pedestal is permitted by code, still it may be violation of the above article due to possible existence of touch potential under unfavorable condition. Provision of GFCI at receptacle location could eliminate that possible hazard and so a code proposal to that effect may be necessary.
Now back to 110.3(a).
While use of equipment without GFCI in RV pedestal is permitted by code, still it may be violation of the above article due to possible existence of touch potential under unfavorable condition. Provision of GFCI at receptacle location could eliminate that possible hazard and so a code proposal to that effect may be necessary.
Don_resqcapt already explained why that's not a particularly good idea - don't you think if this was a real problem and if gfci was guaranteed to be non problematic than they would have already done so ?
There continues to be a misunderstanding about the limits of federal law.
Consider this: With the type of logic going on here, an electrician goes out to a privately owned rv park to work on a panel, that panel/enclosure is his work space and should only be accessible to him, and if the the owner/tenants goes out to reset a tripped breaker/even plug something in at same property, that is (or should be) in violation of federal law, because like you said, it should only be accessible to qualified personnel.:happyno:
1)Don did not object GFCI placing at receptacle locations. 2)It appears to be lapse on the part of the code. That is why I am suggesting a code proposal. 3)Clearly the law does not in the example situation you are stating.Don_resqcapt already explained why that's not a particularly good idea - don't you think if this was a real problem and if gfci was guaranteed to be non problematic than they would have already done so ?
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Feel free to make one...you have until 5pm, Friday, November 3, 2017 to submit a PI (formerly known as a proposal) for a change that would be part of the 2020 code.
John Rushing
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Tap rules
Tap rules
I have an Inspector saying that tap rules apply, I try to explain to her that this a looped system, however she say other wise, how do I get her to understand. We are setting 3- 50/30/20 pedestals on 4/0 alu feeders.
Tap rules
I have an Inspector saying that tap rules apply, I try to explain to her that this a looped system, however she say other wise, how do I get her to understand. We are setting 3- 50/30/20 pedestals on 4/0 alu feeders.
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