When do you consider yourself an electrician?

[letgomywago]

Shrinks are useless subjective fascists... Since you went there. Just like the medical profession in general...just like some electricians, there for the money.
The difference is we cannot fail.

Someone pays the "electrician" to look for EMF so even though we don't see the value some do. I think you know there are some individuals so disturbed that they do need some sort of therapy combined with medication even though many would agree that this is a part of the medical field that has puffed itself up. I'm sure that some sort of EMF can be damaging but not in the normal exposure we get from standard wiring methods but in the extremes there can be heating of ferrous metals and there is also the noise it can put on ultra sensitive electronics.

Edit PS. I don't want a shrink to look at anything on me like a heart condition or dental issue or anything like that.

 

[rambojoe]

Good answer... Except im not looking for emf's. I provide power. And 3 years ago i found out half the country is on "approved meth" and other goodies because of "stuff".
Yet we are not essential.

 

[letgomywago]

Good answer... Except im not looking for emf's. I provide power. And 3 years ago i found out half the country is on "approved meth" and other goodies because of "stuff".
Yet we are not essential.

You own a power plant and poco distribution network?

 

[Dsg319]

You guys are cruisen for a bruisen……

 

[Sberry]

I read thru some of the more complicated threads, I can relate to some aspects but aint foolin anyone,,, I am still eating dirt.

 

[Joethemechanic]

"approved meth"

Approved? Good God don't tell me some A whole government agency is going to regulate and inspect my meth lab. I swear the government comes up with all these regulations and approvals just to keep small business down

 

[Strathead]

You are being overly modest Augie! I don't spend as much time on here as I have in the past, but in my mind, I have a vision of the elite members of this site, I can't name them all at the moment, but certainly you are in the upper echelon indeed.

Well, Eric Clapton doesn't think he is a good guitar player either.

 

[Strathead]

I was thinking of the qualifications that make someone an electrician and then this morning a light went off. You are "an electrician" when you work or an electrical contractor performing, or assisting in performing electrical tasks. If you stand behind a bar and serve drinks, you are a bartender. That, in no way, implies the drinks are drinkable. You can be a "good" electrician, a "maintenance" electrician, an "apprentice" electrician, "journeyman", "service", "marine" "automotive" etc. all of them are electricians.

 

[Joethemechanic]

Is an incompetent electrician still an electrician?

 

[Sea Nile]

Is an incompetent electrician still an electrician?

I would say no, an incompetent electrician is a Hack. An incompetent doctor is a Quack.
That's the reason I don't call myself an electrician yet because the title means something to me. And even though I think I am a competent professional, I don't feel I have enough time doing the work to make that claim. That's why it bothers me personally. But when someone says pick me, I'm an electrician, and someone else says pick me, I'm an apprentice, who do you think is getting picked. Even though the apprentice can do a better job. And I think that sums up the jist of why I asked the question to start with.

 

[Strathead]

I would say no, an incompetent electrician is a Hack. An incompetent doctor is a Quack.
That's the reason I don't call myself an electrician yet because the title means something to me. And even though I think I am a competent professional, I don't feel I have enough time doing the work to make that claim. That's why it bothers me personally. But when someone says pick me, I'm an electrician, and someone else says pick me, I'm an apprentice, who do you think is getting picked. Even though the apprentice can do a better job. And I think that sums up the jist of why I asked the question to start with.

Journeyman electrician means something. An incompetent electrician, is still an electrician. He is also a hack. Sorry, but this is just the way the English language works.

 

[Sea Nile]

Journeyman electrician means something. An incompetent electrician, is still an electrician. He is also a hack. Sorry, but this is just the way the English language works.

Yes, if someone has a journeyman's license, they are a legitimate electrician regardless of competency.
But that's not the context of the post I was responding to.

You are "an electrician" when you work or an electrical contractor performing, or assisting in performing electrical tasks. If you stand behind a bar and serve drinks, you are a bartender.

I'm referring to someone who is not a licensed journeyman.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I am a little surprised they let it get as far as it did.

Well we discussed it and gave it a chance to turn around. It didn't so I am closing the thread...sorry

 

[Dennis Alwon]

It's open again

 

[letgomywago]

It's open again

So you're knowledgeable and have been around for a while Dennis. At what point in your career when a person you just met asked what you did did you respond "electrican" instead of "apprentice electrican"?

 

[petersonra]

So I was talking with an electrician yesterday while waiting around on a job site. He mentioned he had an apprentice and a construction electrician working in another building on the same campus.

I asked what a "construction electrician" was. He said it is a job classification for electricians that do not want to go to school like regular apprentices do, but they are sort of like apprentices, other than not going to school. I don't know if they get some other title like journeyman (in this case maybe journeyperson would be more appropriate) construction electrician after some period of time or what. He also told me it was her first day on the job.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

So you're knowledgeable and have been around for a while Dennis. At what point in your career when a person you just met asked what you did did you respond "electrican" instead of "apprentice electrican"?

I never user the term apprentice but I did use the term helper when I was 12 or 13 and worked with my dad. By the time I was 17 he sent me out on my own so in my eyes I was no longer a helper. Went to college and worked a few years as a psychotherapeutic technician but decided I wanted to be active using my hands. I worked for a guy who had me on my own almost immediately.
True story, when things got slow he laid off all the other guys who were there for years before me and kept me working. When he brought them back they didn't like me....hahaha

 

[Joethemechanic]

psychotherapeutic technician

Did you get to administer ECT?

 

[LarryFine]

I like to think I qualify.

 

[petersonra]

Did you get to administer ECT?

only to himself. it was how he discovered his love for electricity.

now he comes to work everyday knowing there is the potential for that sweet release when he "forgets" his gloves and works on live equipment anyway.